There is no passage of Scripture that says its OK for a woman to preach to, teach, or hold authority over men in the gathered body of believers as long as she has permission from her pastor or husband. (Oh my goodness~ thank you for using the term hermeneutics, eisegesis and exegesis! Being a person of great influence and wealth, he had demanded that he be given a place in the group because he wanted to "perform" before I know they were long and torturous~ especially since youve obviously answered the same questions over and over to others. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ. Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. What is certain is that Paul, in saying, "do not go beyond what is written," was not teaching sola scriptura. Hi Lisa- I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help answer your questions and give you a biblical understanding of womens roles in the church. Wolters begins with the shrewd observation that the four authors understand what moving beyond the Bible to theology means in at least four overlapping but distinguishable ways: (1) bringing the authority of Scripture to bear on issues that Scripture itself does not directly address (e.g., in contemporary bioethics); (2) dealing with ethically . Now, reading your post, I see that your words against her work and I do not understand why believers behave the way they do against fellow believers. - But such as is common to man; rather, except such as is human; i.e. And because of those issues, I deeply regret that I am not able to recommend her as I would like to. She is a false teacher, not because I say so, but because when you compare her teachings and behavior to Scripture, you will find them consistently in conflict with Scripture. It just says dont. Period. Here is a partial list of things that the Bible does not answer definitively: 1. Thats why I said may have been. Whether that particular moment in time was, in fact, the moment that Priscilla was introduced to false doctrine and false teachers can be debated, but the fact of the matter is that she came under the influence of false teachers at some point and still unequally yokes herself to them and teaches false doctrine today. BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT No-one is beyond compassion. Then why did you ask me any questions? Id also like to recommend my article thats linked at the very top of this page: Answering the Opposition. Job 36:26 Verse Concepts Its very easy to think of Priscilla and think, Whats not to love?. And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. Thats good, but that doesnt change the fact that neither Beth nor Priscilla turn down speaking events that are open to both men and women. It means to trust that the Bible has all the answers and truths we need to live a holy and pleasing life before Godwe don't need anything beyond what God has provided for us in His Word (see 2 Peter 1:3 ). Have been vetting her this was very helpful! If you wouldnt follow a male pastor or Bible teacher who was open and unrepentant about committing adultery or shoplifting or getting plowed every weekend, why would you follow any female Bible teacher who preaches to and instructs men? Michelle, what do you think about this article? What is a defining moment? SCRIPTURES YOU CAN USE: I will give them a heart to know Me, for I am the Lord; and they will be My people, and I will be their God, for they will return to Me with their whole heart. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. How is this different?. Unfortunately, they depend on LifeWay to deliver sound material. Feel free to e-mail me (MichelleLesley1@yahoo.com) if it would be easier for you. Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. MATTHEW 14:16 The third, Chris Rosebrough, is Lutheran (AALC), and much of his theology is in line with Reformed theology. unbiblical) meditation. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. - Jonah 2:10. She seems somewhat self righteous. THERE WERE 1 Corinthians 4:6 says: My co-leader read your thoughts about Priscilla and I presented your views to the members of our study. Is highly recomended, presenting four distinctive views about going "beyond the Bible", in ethics and moral issues, each one written by serious scholar. Sermon by Rick Crandall Check it out and learn about modesty and biblical decision-making. ), placing herself into scripture and thereby improperly luring women to God through personal experiences of Jesus instead of purely reading the Word of God. I guess I have to do some research on those folks. Philippians 4:13 Verse Concepts I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. I would love for you to hang out with us here at the blog and/or on social media (links at the top of this page). My wife is grateful because of the resources, and because of what she said is best described as like mindedness,(She is sitting beside me by the way!) I think the best reward for the reader is to take all those views as complementary and related being parts of the same whole system of interpretation. Well, that is why the rubber band was made, to be stretched. 1And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things. That, plus being a faithful member of a doctrinally sound church and being taught the Word every week is the best way to learn the truth of Scripture and grow in Christ. Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. That is not what the Bible says that preachers and teachers are to do. Though there are others, these are the major doctrinal errors in this video, which is less than four minutes of teaching from Priscilla. I also dislike how she makes a career of telling women not to have careers. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. Mark 10:46-53, Denomination: The Bible says dont do X, Beth Moore does X. Thats breaking Gods command, which is sin. She also teaches false doctrine (things that either are at odds with Scripture or arent in Scripture at all) and partners with other false teachers (people who teach false doctrine). Bushnell Assembly of God I understand that you have your opinion about Mrs Shirer but to judge I do not think God led you to write this check your heart. Although that interpretation of the text is a possibility, being consistent with the rest of Scripture, it is by no means certain. A NIGHTMARE ON DESERT STREET! I am always delighted to answer questions from, and help, women who sincerely want help understanding the problems with a false teacher, understanding Scripture, etc., even if those questions are long. I am a born again Christian. What do you consider important/non-important and vital/non-vital, and on which Scriptures do you make these distinctions? A large chunk of the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-23, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, the book of Jude, and many other passages) is devoted to warning people against false teaching. Furthermore, if this is a disingenuous comment/questions, you are being deceitful and displaying ungodly character and you need to repent. Its not simply a prohibition against women having a job as a pastor- theres more to it than that. Click here I would suggest beginning with the article entitled Jill in the Pulpit (youll have to scroll down a bit to get to it). Certainly. Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. When the angels had gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another, "Let us go straight to Bethlehem then, and see this thing that has happened which the Lord has made known to us." Mark 5:32 Verse Concepts And He looked around to see the woman who had done this. Combining elements of Eastern mysticism and New Age spirituality, this practice of emptying the mind and listening for Gods voice is found nowhere in Scripture. Your defense of Moore and Shirer is based only on your own experiences and opinions. Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. I shared this post on Facebook the same day my new pastor friend requested me. How can we be Christians who care? After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. Evangelical/Non-Denominational. When the Bible says not to do something and you do it anyway, thats a sin. I KNOW this is your website and if I dont like it or cant relate to or dont understand what your position is on a particular topic~ I have the choice to stop reading. As for the topic of this post neither of us have heard of her, but thanks for the heads up and good article as always. Id recommend starting with Rock Your Role FAQs #11, then moving on to Jill in the Pulpit. I think I dont think I feel If youre a Christian, what you think, feel, believe, say, and do is supposed to be governed by Scripture. THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN TO AN ANONYMOUS CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO APPEARS TO OPEN HER HOME TO BELIEVERS FOR WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP. Some of the points you bring up give me pause. 2. There are two crucial reasons for this. If false teachers and their followers would simply repent and believe and obey Scripture, there would be no more division in the Body. Scripture is very clear that people like Priscilla Shirer who teach false doctrine confuse and stir up evil among believers: I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. 13 Bible Verses about God's Ways Beyond Human Understanding Most Relevant Verses Isaiah 55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. Going Beyond Obedience. It is people like Priscilla Shirer who make up their own doctrine and point people to their personal views rather than the Bible. We would be unified around the truth of Scripture. Accused is a very loaded, and in this case, inaccurate term. Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. It was stated, that the big name pastors are no where to be found when standing against these deceptions. 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts Can you please provide a list of female speakers/writers whom you do recommend? They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. Ohmygoodness!!!! Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. 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